瞧特朗普這一家子

⊙ By Lesley Stahl

翻譯：旭文

瞧特朗普這一家子

a closeup of the Trump Family

⊙ By Lesley Stahl

翻譯：旭文

美國(guó)總統(tǒng)唐納德·特朗普上任已經(jīng)四個(gè)多月了。從他參加總統(tǒng)競(jìng)選到正式上任，圍繞他的任性言行的爭(zhēng)議持續(xù)不斷。有人點(diǎn)贊，有人拍磚，有人甚至游行示威。可以說(shuō)，美國(guó)史上還沒(méi)有哪位總統(tǒng)上任伊始就如此飽受爭(zhēng)議。關(guān)于特朗普究竟是怎樣的人也是眾說(shuō)紛紜。現(xiàn)在我們拋開(kāi)各種政治爭(zhēng)議，來(lái)聽(tīng)聽(tīng)特朗普一家在大選結(jié)束后有什么要說(shuō)的吧，或許你能從中看到一個(gè)與過(guò)往印象不一樣的特朗普。

Reporter: You’re about to be First Lady. Are you a little nervous about it? Little tense? A little…

Melania Trump: Well, there is [sic] a lot of responsibilities. And it’s… a lot of work needs to be done. We will take care of it, day by day. I will stay true to myself. I’m very strong and tough and confident. And I will listen [sic] myself and I will do what is right and what feels [sic] to my heart.

Reporter: What about your husband’s1)tweeting?

Melania: Well, sometimes it got him in trouble. But it helped a lot as well. He had unbelievable2)following.

Reporter: So you never say to him, “Come on”?

Melania: I did.

Donald Trump: She does.

Melania: I…of course, I did many times, from the beginning of the3)campaign.

Reporter: If he does something that you think4)crossed a line, will you tell him?

Melania: Yes, I tell him all the time.

Reporter: All the time?

Melania: All the time.

Reporter: And does…

Melania: And…

Reporter: …h(huán)e listen? Does he…

Melania: I think he hears me. But he will do what he wants to do on [sic] the end. He’s an adult. He knows the consequences. And I give him my opinion. And he could do whatever he likes with it.

Reporter: Did you ask Melania sort of, for permission, in a way, to run for president? Did you get her approval?

Donald: Well, I actually sat down with Melania and my whole family and we talked about it. Don, Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany. Barron to a lesser5)extent, but Barron too. And so we all had a dinner and I said, “I would like to do this. I think I can do a great job.” And I wanted to get, number one, a6)consensus，and number two, ideally, their permission. And they all agreed.

Reporter: Your son Barron, what is he, 10?

Melania: 10.

Reporter: 10. He was on camera the whole time you were giving your acceptance speech. Does he get it? Does he know?

Melania: He knows. He knows…

Reporter: He knows?

Melania: …what’s going on. And, he’s very proud of his dad.

1) tweet [twi:t] v. 發(fā)推文，在推特上發(fā)消息

2) following [5f?lEJIN] n. 擁擠者，追隨者，此處指在社交媒體上關(guān)注某人的粉絲。

3) campaign [kAm5peIn] n. 競(jìng)選

4) cross a line 過(guò)界，出格

5) extent [Ik5stent] n. 程度

6) consensus [kEn5sensEs] n. 意見(jiàn)一致

Reporter: Roles during the administration. Any of you want a job in your father’s administration?

Eric Trump: We’ll…we’ll be in New York and we’ll take care of the business. I think we’re going to have a lot of fun doing it. And we’re going to make him very proud. Reporter: People think that you’re going to be part of the administration, Ivanka.

Ivanka Trump: I’m…no. I’m going to be a daughter. But I’ve…I’ve said throughout the campaign that I am very7)passionate about certain issues. And that I want to fight for them. Wage equality, childcare. These are things that are...are very important for me. I’m very passionate about education. Really8)promoting more opportunities for women. So you know, there’re a lot of things that I feel deeply, strongly about. But not in a9)formal administrative10)capacity.

Reporter: Let me ask whether any of you think that the campaign has hurt the Trump brand.

Ivanka: I don’t think it matters. This is so much more important. And more serious. And…so that…I…I…you know, that’s…that’s the focus.

Donald: I think what Ivanka is trying to say,“Who cares? Who cares?” This is11)big league stuff. This is…this is our country. Our country is going bad. We’re gonna save our country. I don’t care about hotel12)occupancy. It’s peanuts compared to what we’re doing. Health care, making people better. It’s unfair what’s happened to the people of our country.

7) passionate [5pAFEnEt] adj. 熱情的，充滿激情的

8) promote [prE5mEJt] v. 促進(jìn)

9) formal [5fC:m(E)l] adj. 正式的

10) capacity [kE5pAsItI] n. 地位，身份

11) big league 原來(lái)指美國(guó)棒球聯(lián)賽（Major League），這是美國(guó)最高水準(zhǔn)的棒球比賽，后來(lái)引申指一流水平的人或重大事件。

12) occupancy [5?kjJpEnsI] n. 占有

詞匯學(xué)習(xí)：come on

動(dòng)詞詞組come on有多種含義，在單獨(dú)用作口語(yǔ)祈使句時(shí)，意思與書(shū)面表達(dá)不同，它有一種提醒的作用，表催促、激勵(lì)、鼓勵(lì)、注意等意，例如：

l Come on. We’ll be late.（快點(diǎn)，我們要遲到了。）

l Come on. You can’t keep asking Dad for money.（好了，你不能老是向爸要錢。）

l Let’s do it. Come on. We can make it.（我們一起做這事吧，來(lái)吧，我們能行的。）

記者：您即將成為第一夫人。您是不是對(duì)此有點(diǎn)忐忑不安？有點(diǎn)緊張？有點(diǎn)……

梅拉尼婭·特朗普：嗯，我會(huì)肩負(fù)許多責(zé)任，有……有許多工作等著我們?nèi)プ觥Ｎ覀儠?huì)日復(fù)一日地把事情做好。我會(huì)忠于自己的內(nèi)心。我非常強(qiáng)大，很堅(jiān)強(qiáng)，也很自信，我將聽(tīng)從自己內(nèi)心的聲音，做自己認(rèn)為正確的事，遵從自己的感覺(jué)。

記者：您如何看待您丈夫的推文呢？

梅拉尼婭：呃，他的推文有時(shí)會(huì)給他惹麻煩，但也能幫很大的忙，他的粉絲數(shù)量之多讓人難以置信。

記者：所以您從來(lái)沒(méi)有向他說(shuō)“消停一下”？

梅拉尼婭：我說(shuō)過(guò)。

唐納德·特朗普：她說(shuō)過(guò)的。

梅拉尼婭：我……當(dāng)然，從競(jìng)選伊始，我就曾經(jīng)多次向他提過(guò)這事。

記者：如果您覺(jué)得他做了什么出格的事，您會(huì)告訴他嗎？

梅拉尼婭：會(huì)的，我一直都這么做。

記者：一直都有？

梅拉尼婭：一直都有。

記者：那么……

梅拉尼婭：而且……

記者：……他聽(tīng)您的話嗎？他會(huì)……

梅拉尼婭：我認(rèn)為他明白我的話，但他最終還是會(huì)按自己的想法行事。畢竟他是成年人，知道這么做的后果。我把自己的看法告訴他，怎么做是他的事。

記者：在競(jìng)選總統(tǒng)這件事上，在某種程度上而言，您曾請(qǐng)求梅拉尼婭的應(yīng)允嗎？她同意了嗎？

唐納德：呃，事實(shí)上，我跟她，還有我們?nèi)叶甲聛?lái)好好談過(guò)，小唐、伊萬(wàn)卡、埃里克、蒂凡尼，甚至包括巴倫——盡管與他說(shuō)得不多，但也聊過(guò)。我們?cè)谝黄鸪酝盹垥r(shí)，我說(shuō)：“我想做這件事，我覺(jué)得我能當(dāng)個(gè)好總統(tǒng)。”我這么做，首先是為了取得家庭內(nèi)部的共識(shí)，其次，最理想的就是征得他們的同意。他們都同意了。

記者：您兒子巴倫多大了？有10歲了嗎？

梅拉尼婭：10歲。

記者：才10歲。在您發(fā)表答謝辭時(shí)，他全程都出現(xiàn)在鏡頭前。他明白這是怎么回事嗎？他懂嗎？

梅拉尼婭：他懂。他明白……

記者：他真的懂？

梅拉尼婭：……他明白發(fā)生了什么，他非常以父親為榮。

記者：談?wù)勀銈冊(cè)谶@屆政府里的角色吧。你們當(dāng)中有誰(shuí)希望在父親的政府里謀一份工作呢？

埃里克·特朗普：我們會(huì)……我們將會(huì)待在紐約，繼續(xù)經(jīng)營(yíng)我們的生意。我想我們會(huì)樂(lè)在其中，也會(huì)讓他感到非常驕傲。

記者：伊萬(wàn)卡，人們認(rèn)為你會(huì)加入新一屆政府。

伊萬(wàn)卡·特朗普：我……不會(huì)，我只會(huì)是總統(tǒng)的女兒。但是正如我……我在競(jìng)選過(guò)程中多次說(shuō)過(guò)，我對(duì)有些議題非常熱心，想要為此一戰(zhàn)。比如說(shuō)同工同酬、兒童保育等，這些對(duì)我而言很重要。我對(duì)教育事業(yè)充滿熱情，也一直致力于為給婦女爭(zhēng)取更多機(jī)會(huì)。所以你知道，我對(duì)很多事情有很深的感觸，有明確的態(tài)度，但不會(huì)正式擔(dān)任公職來(lái)做這些事。

記者：那么請(qǐng)問(wèn)你們當(dāng)中有誰(shuí)認(rèn)為參加此次競(jìng)選對(duì)特朗普品牌產(chǎn)生了負(fù)面影響呢？

伊萬(wàn)卡：我認(rèn)為這不重要，競(jìng)選比生意重要得多，是一件更嚴(yán)肅的事。所以，我……我……你知道，競(jìng)選才是重點(diǎn)。

唐納德：我想伊萬(wàn)卡是想說(shuō)：“誰(shuí)在乎這些呢？誰(shuí)在乎呢？”競(jìng)選是件天大的事，這是……這是為了我們的國(guó)家，而我們的國(guó)家正在走下坡路，我們要拯救我們的國(guó)家。我不在乎酒店的入住率，這與我們當(dāng)前的事業(yè)相比微不足道。我們要改善醫(yī)療保健，讓人們生活得更好。美國(guó)人目前所遭遇的一切實(shí)在太不公平了。